What was said

Conservation Commission, August 17, 2022

the recording · 2:41 long, about 17,574 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 35:26The Conservation Commission approved a Pleasant Street septic repair with a standard order of conditions.
  2. ▶ 1:28:28It approved a Northfield Road lot 5 house with erosion protection, after abutters questioned runoff and drainage designs.
  3. ▶ 1:57:33It approved a Northfield Road lot A well and water line with a boulders condition.
  4. ▶ 21:11Hearings at Hickory Hills Lake, 37 Spring Street, Electric Avenue, 509 Harbor Road and a dock were continued to September 7th for revised plans.
  5. ▶ 1:49:48Holman Street lots 3 and 4 were continued to September 21st so the driveway can be moved out of the 50-foot zone.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Approvals on Northfield Road and Pleasant Street set the wetlands conditions that govern runoff and septic work near abutting homes, while the continued filings stay open until revised plans are reviewed.
  • Residents near Spring Street, Holman Street and the dock can still be heard at the September 7th and 21st hearings, which are the next chance to shape those conditions.

Watch next

  • September 7th meeting: continued hearings for Hickory Hills Lake, 37 Spring Street, Electric Avenue, 509 Harbor Road and the dock.
  • September 21st meeting: Holman Street lots 3 and 4 with a revised driveway location.

housingplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departments

Present: Bob Pease (chair); Rich (Richard Bursch) (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Mike Larouche (member); Mary Wilson (member); Richard Tremblay (associate member); Nadia Madden (conservation administrator). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 21:11Continue Hickory Hills Lake retaining wall hearing to September 7thnot audible
  2. ▶ 22:55Continue the dock hearing until later in the meetingnot audible
  3. ▶ 35:26Approve Pleasant Street septic notice of intent with standard order of conditionsnot audible
  4. ▶ 1:04:41Continue 37 Spring Street hearing to September 7thnot audible
  5. ▶ 1:13:29Continue Electric Avenue hearing to September 7thnot audible
  6. ▶ 1:15:13Continue 509 Harbor Road driveway hearing to September 7thnot audible
  7. ▶ 1:28:28Approve Northfield Road lot 5 house with erosion protection as on septic plannot audible
  8. ▶ 1:49:48Continue Holman Street lot 3 to September 21stnot audible
  9. ▶ 1:57:33Approve Northfield Road lot A well and water line with boulders conditionnot audible
  10. ▶ 2:00:18Continue Holman Street lot 4 to September 21stnot audible
  11. ▶ 2:17:23Continue dock RDA to September 7thnot audible
  12. ▶ 2:36:08Issue certificate of compliance for 610 West Streetnot audible

And 4 procedural: approve minutes of april 6 (▶ 2:26); approve minutes of april 20 (▶ 2:48); approve minutes of august 3 (▶ 4:30); adjourn (▶ 2:40:21).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 10 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsMary Wilson attendance▶ 0:00

    recording Mary Wilson (member)

    town’s minutes “present: bp, rb, jv, ml absent: cc, pa, mw also present: nm, rt”

    Our minutes list Mary Wilson as a member present, but the official roll lists 'mw' as absent; check the recording for whether she attended or whether a speaker was misattributed.

  2. differsTremblay endorsement decision▶ 2:25:21

    recording Chair will send a personal letter backing Richard Tremblay for the open seat; other members may send their own.

    town’s minutes “bp recommends that the commission endorse richard tremblay as a new conservation commission member to the select board.”

    Official minutes record the commission agreeing to endorse Tremblay with the chair writing a letter, while ours has only a personal letter by the chair and optional ones from others; check whether the commission actually agreed to endorse and whether a vote was taken.

  3. differsDock applicant plan (132 Hemlock Drive)▶ 2:17:23

    recording Dock applicant to return September 7th with a plan for a removable dock.

    town’s minutes “kaitlin naughton shared her plan for a 4'x4' permanent dock sitting on the bottom of the lake.”

    Ours says the applicant was asked to return with a removable dock plan; the official minutes describe a permanent dock plan and record no request for a removable one; check the recording for what the commission requested.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • 509 Townsend Harbor Road hearing continued to September 7:Continue 509 Harbor Road driveway hearing to September 7th — not audible→509 Townsend Harbor Road▶ 1:15:13
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 6 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Vote to continue dock hearing until later in meeting: Continue the dock hearing until later in the meeting — not audible ▶ 22:55
  • Town’s minutes only — Leblanc revised plan to be sent the Saturday prior: “bp asked if the revised plan can be sent the saturday prior to the next meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Election of officers delayed: “election of officers (if all members participating): delayed until all members are present.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Trails grant reimbursement (Howard Street driveway): “bp has applied for reimbursement for the total amount of the grant.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road maintenance reimbursement and second quote: “ml noted that the 2nd quote that came in includes highly insulated windows with good reviews on quality for price.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Documentation to be sent on Leominster-Shirley Road field change: “nm to send him further documentation.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent members Patricia Adams and Catie Childs: “present: bp, rb, jv, ml absent: cc, pa, mw also present: nm, rt”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 21:11Hickory Hills retaining wall applicant to bring a scaled plan with grades and elevations to the September 7th meeting.
  • ▶ 1:49:48Holman Street lots 3 and 4 continued to September 21st so the driveway can be moved out of the 50-foot zone.
  • ▶ 2:17:23Dock applicant to return September 7th with a plan for a removable dock.
  • ▶ 2:25:21Chair will send a personal letter backing Richard Tremblay for the open seat; other members may send their own.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Revised plan for retaining walls, 362 Townsend Harbor Road (revised 8.17.22)
  • Plan for septic system, 127 Pleasant Street (first sheet)
  • Project plan, 37 Spring Street (Mardsen Engineering)
  • Letter from Mary-Ann DePinto on the drainage ditch, Lot A Northfield Road
  • Updated wetlands plan with corrected flags 25 to 28, lot 3 Holman St
  • Certificate of Compliance, 610 West Street
  • Second quote for maintenance work, Hollis Road residence

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 2:26minutes of April 6, April 20 and August 3prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 25:34Pleasant Street planplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Plan for septic system, 127 Pleasant Street (first sheet)”)
  • ▶ 49:04Spring Street photographs and planplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Project plan, 37 Spring Street (Mardsen Engineering)”)
  • ▶ 1:17:44three oaks four-page report on ditchreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:39:41letter from McCarthy engineeringletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from Mary-Ann DePinto on the drainage ditch, Lot A Northfield Road”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 44:55Attorney for the abutter at 51 Spring Street raised drainage, an unshown historic trench, sump pumps and driveway paving concerns about 37 Spring Street. — a speaker, attorney for abutter
  2. ▶ 1:29:29Abutters across from the Northfield Road lots worried about runoff, questioned DEP approval and doubted the durability of rain gardens and drainage designs. — a speaker, abutters

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening and announcements, resignation of a memberinformational · 2:26 long
  2. ▶ 2:26Approval of minutesvoted · 2:25 long
  3. ▶ 4:51Hickory Hills Lake retaining walls, 362 Thompson Harbor Roadcontinued to September 7th · 17:24 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 23:36Pleasant Street septic repairapproved · 12:32 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 36:0837 Spring Street septic and recharge trench, abutter concernscontinued to September 7th · 28:54 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  6. ▶ 1:05:02Electric Avenue regrading and 509 Harbor Road drivewaycontinued · 10:11 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:15:34Northfield Road lot 5 house, abutter objectionsapproved · 21:32 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  8. ▶ 1:37:06Holman Street lots 3 and 4 and Northfield lot Alots 3 and 4 continued; lot A approved with conditions · 23:33 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:00:39132 Hemlock Drive dockcontinued to September 7th · 17:24 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:18:23Officer elections and recommending a new memberinformational · 9:43 long · personnel
  11. ▶ 2:28:06Encroachment update, Hollis Road windows, pollinator habitat, certificate of compliance, trails grant, other reportsinformational, certificate voted · 12:15 long · facilities
  12. ▶ 2:40:21Adjournmentvoted · 1:01 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Most roll-call counts are recited by name but several names are garbled or dropped, so tallies are not firm.
  • Some captions of the motion and second are unclear.

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026