What was said

Conservation Commission, October 19, 2022

the recording · 1:38 long, about 11,091 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 23:24The commission approved a new order of conditions for 390 New West Townsend Road, 4-0 by roll call, re-permitting a project whose 2017 order had expired.
  2. ▶ 37:21It issued a negative determination of applicability for the Lunenburg Water District main replacement on Mass Ave, with 14 days' notice to the office before construction.
  3. ▶ 51:29It voted to pay the Cleghorn Plumbing invoice for emergency toilet replacement at the Hollis Road house, unanimously.
  4. ▶ 57:30It ratified the agent's tree-removal determinations at 131 White Street, 53 Pearl Street and 238 Fire Road 16.
  5. ▶ 1:28:26It approved the Snow Riders' Calgary lot bridge repair; the next meeting is November 2, and election of officers was deferred.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The water main decision lets the district's Mass Ave replacement go ahead without a full wetlands permit, and the 14-day notice is the commission's check on when work starts.
  • The Hollis Road invoice and the Calgary lot bridge repair draw on town conservation land and its accounts, so they bear on what the town spends there and how volunteer labor is used.
  • The conservation administrator's last meeting changes who handles permit filings and site determinations for residents until the post is filled.

Watch next

  • Next meeting November 2 at 7 PM, where the election of officers, deferred for lack of full attendance, is expected.
  • The list of appliances and heating systems at the Hollis Road house, due at the next meeting.

legalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationtown departmentswater sewer

Present: Mary (acting chair) (acting chair, remote); Bob Pease (chair (joined late), remote); Rich Burch (member, remote); Jeff Viviano (member (named in roll call, response not captured), remote); Katie Childs (member, remote); Mike larouche (member, remote); Rich Tremblay (member, remote); Nadia (conservation administrator); Greg Roy (presenter, representing applicant (Dillon Roy), remote); Anthony Cleaves (presenter, Haley Ward for Lunenburg Water District, remote); Gary McCarthy (presenter, Stantec, remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 23:24Approve the notice of intent for 390 New West Townsend Road, updating condition 45 with correct riverfront square footages and adding a condition on refreshing erosion control wattles/notice 14 days before construction.passed 4-0 by roll call (Rich Burch, Katie Childs, Mike Larouche, Rich Tremblay aye)
  2. ▶ 37:21Issue a negative determination of applicability for the water main replacement on Mass Ave, with condition that the office be notified 14 days before construction.passed (roll call: Burch, Childs, Tremblay aye, chair aye; Larouche lost connection; quorum noted)
  3. ▶ 51:29Pay the Cleghorn Plumbing invoice for Hollis Road toilet replacement as submitted.passed unanimously by roll call
  4. ▶ 57:30Ratify the agent's determination to remove three dead trees within the 30-foot no-touch zone at 131 White Street.passed (roll call; all responses captured as affirmative)
  5. ▶ 1:01:07Ratify the agent's determination to remove and limb trees at 53 Pearl Street with replacement of two maples and two hemlocks.passed unanimously by roll call, including Bob Pease
  6. ▶ 1:04:16Ratify the agent's decision to cut one damaged tree at 238 Fire Road 16.passed by roll call, responses captured as affirmative
  7. ▶ 1:28:26Approve the Snow Riders' Calgary lot bridge repair project and thank the Snow Riders.passed; Rich Burch apparently abstained or was disconnected, others aye

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of october 5th. (▶ 39:51); adjourn. (▶ 1:37:10).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 10 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsAttendee: Jeff Viviano

    recording Jeff Viviano (member (named in roll call, response not captured))

    town’s minutes “present: mw (acting chair), rb, cc, ml, rt, bp (joined late) absent: jv”

    Ours leaves his attendance unclear while the official minutes mark him absent; check the recording roll call to see whether he answered.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Vote: Snowriders bridge repair project name:Approve the Snow Riders' Calgary lot bridge repair project and thank the Snow Riders. — passed; Rich Burch apparently abstained or was disconnected→Cowdrey trail▶ 1:28:26
  • Figure: Maki's purchase order:Mackie's purchase order: two thousand dollar, about 70, one thousand nine hundred and something dollars, three or four hundred dollars→Maki's▶ 1:15:03
  • Attendee: Rich Burch:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Hollis Road annual extermination contract: Hollis Road annual extermination contract: around 500 or so dollars ▶ 48:41
  • Recording only — DocuSign guidance to members: Members asked not to reject DocuSign requests, since rejection blocks other signers; they should simply not sign or email the office. ▶ 42:20
  • Recording only — Howard Street driveway and DPW director: Chair to approach the DPW director about the Howard Street driveway now that it is approved. ▶ 1:13:23
  • Recording only — Hollis Road appliance and heating list: Member to compile a list of appliances and heating systems at the Hollis Road house for the next meeting; windows replacement expected early December. ▶ 47:17
  • Recording only — Next meeting date: Next meeting set for November 2 at 7 PM ▶ 1:37:50
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road pollinator habitat purchases: “ml said the first request for the pollinator habitat was for a water tank from facebook marketplace, which cost $100.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Town counsel question on statute of limitations: “bp will ask town counsel about the 2-year statute of limitations of violations in the buffer zone”
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendee: Mike Brady: “mike brady said the work will likely take 60-90 days barring delays in material availability.”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 50:29Cleghorn Plumbing invoice, Hollis Road toilets

    Administrator said the commission needed a vote to pay the invoice for emergency toilet replacement; the commission voted to pay.

    as heard:1471.56

  2. ▶ 48:41Hollis Road annual extermination contract

    A member recalled the proposal being around five hundred dollars and was unsure whether service had been rendered.

    as heard:around 500 or so dollars

  3. ▶ 1:15:03Mackie's purchase order

    The earlier purchase order was largely unspent and expired July 1, so a new one was issued for the remainder; the chair wants an open PO kept for small conservation improvements.

    as heard:two thousand dollarabout 70one thousand nine hundred and something dollarsthree or four hundred dollars

  4. ▶ 1:14:43Timber sale revenue

    The chair said the timber sales on the Hollis Road and Chase Road/Northfield Road properties are expected to bring in revenue combined.

    as heard:28 grand

  5. ▶ 1:22:06Calgary lot bridge repair materials

    Snow Riders asked for budget support for materials, expecting to come in below the requested amount, with volunteers providing labor.

    as heard:a lesson 12001200

  6. ▶ 53:13Hollis Road account purchases

    Water tank bought via marketplace and fencing for the pollinator habitat were charged against Hollis Road funds; a member was unsure which accounts the water tank money came from.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 22:40Administrator to update condition 45 of the order with the correct riverfront figures from form three and add language on refreshing erosion control wattles.
  • ▶ 1:11:53Enforcement orders for several addresses will go to the chair/vice chair for signature via DocuSign without a separate commission vote.
  • ▶ 42:20Members asked not to reject DocuSign requests, since rejection blocks other signers; they should simply not sign or email the office.
  • ▶ 1:13:23Chair to approach the DPW director about the Howard Street driveway now that it is approved.
  • ▶ 47:17Member to compile a list of appliances and heating systems at the Hollis Road house for the next meeting; windows replacement expected early December.
  • ▶ 1:37:50Next meeting set for November 2 at 7 PM; election of officers deferred for lack of full attendance.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Notice of Intent DEP # 208-1274, Darren Brosseau, 390 New West Townsend Road
  • Prior Order of Conditions DEP #208-1125 (approved 2017, expired early 2022)
  • DEP comments on the NOI filing
  • Request for Determination of Applicability, Lunenburg Water District, water main replacement, 1205-1479 Massachusetts Avenue
  • Lunenburg Snowriders proposed trail bridge plan and estimate (Cowdrey)
  • Cleghorn Plumbing invoice, $1,471.56
  • Administrator's determinations: 131 White Street, 53 Pearl Street, 238 Fire Road #16
  • Certificate of compliance requests: 90 Hemlock Drive, 131 and 137 Holman Street, 238 Fire Road #16
  • Enforcement orders EO 48 Oak Ridge, EO 54 Pine Grove, EO 23 Cove Road, EO 336 Arbor St
  • RDA submitted for 411 Goodrich St (Conservation Office)
  • Maki's purchase order (FY22 $2000 PO; new FY23 PO)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 5:122017 order of conditions, DEP file 208-11125application or permit, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Prior Order of Conditions DEP #208-1125 (approved 2017, expired early 2022)”)
  • ▶ 14:25Form 3 submitted with the applicationapplication or permit, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“RDA submitted for 411 Goodrich St (Conservation Office)”)
  • ▶ 7:41Site plan with wetlands buffer and erosion control lineplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 15:50DEP commentsletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“DEP comments on the NOI filing”)
  • ▶ 26:12RDA application and Stantec water main plansplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Request for Determination of Applicability, Lunenburg Water District, water main replacement, 1205-1479 Massachusetts Avenue”)
  • ▶ 39:29Minutes of October 5thprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:21:22Snow Riders bridge project plan and cost breakoutplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Lunenburg Snowriders proposed trail bridge plan and estimate (Cowdrey)”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:51Chair asked for public comment at the start; none came forward.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, roll call, open meeting notices, public commentinformational · 4:10 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 4:11Public hearing: notice of intent, 390 New West Townsend Road (expired 2017 order, riverfront figures)voted, approved · 21:19 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 25:31Request for determination: Lunenburg Water District main replacement on Mass Avevoted, negative determination · 13:35 long · water sewer, planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 39:07Minutes, Girl Scouts bench, DocuSign etiquette, recap for late memberminutes approved · 7:03 long · policy
  5. ▶ 46:11Old business: Hollis Road house, plumbing invoice, pollinator habitat fencinginvoice payment voted · 10:19 long · facilities, recreation
  6. ▶ 56:31Administrative determinations: 131 White St, 53 Pearl St, 238 Fire Road 16voted, all ratified · 8:49 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:05:21Certificates of compliance updates and enforcement ordersinformational; no vote needed · 7:34 long · planning and zoning, legal
  8. ▶ 1:12:56Open space, Howard Street driveway, timber sales, Mackie's PO, Girl Scouts/Ledger articlesinformational · 15:24 long · recreation, budget
  9. ▶ 1:28:21Snow Riders Calgary lot bridge repairvoted, approved · 1:39 long · recreation, facilities
  10. ▶ 1:30:01Public comment: statute of limitations question, tribute to departing administrator, adjournmentadjourned · 8:10 long · personnel, legal

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether Jeff Viviano responded to the roll call or attended.
  • Exact roll call responses on several votes, including when Mike Larouche dropped and rejoined.
  • Rich Burch's vote on the Snow Riders bridge motion; he seems to have abstained or lost audio.
  • Who made and seconded several motions.
  • Exact amount of the new Mackie's PO.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026