What was said

Planning Board, October 24, 2022

the recording · 2:48 long, about 20,247 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The short version

  1. ▶ 21:03The Planning Board recommended in favor of the citizen petition to rezone part of 199 Mass Ave to commercial.
  2. ▶ 1:19:28The board approved the 88 Mass Ave site plan with standard conditions, a sight triangle limit and set construction hours, after approving the requested waivers.
  3. ▶ 1:45:23The board recommended approval of article 20, which would change motel use to a special permit.
  4. ▶ 1:54:26The board recommended refusing the right of first refusal on parcel 3 Sunny Hill Road, seeing no reason to spend town money on landlocked wetlands.
  5. ▶ 1:40:26The board approved three waivers for the warehouse site plan and continued that hearing to November 14 at 6:05 PM.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The two zoning articles are warrant articles, so residents will be asked to vote on them at town meeting; the board's recommendations are advice and do not decide them.
  • The Sunny Hill Road recommendation bears on whether the town spends money on a purchase it could match, and the warehouse and municipal building items remain undecided and may come back with costs attached.

Watch next

  • November 14 meeting: the warehouse hearing resumes at 6:05 PM, and the municipal building concepts are the first agenda item.
  • A possible discussion on November 28 of zoning near the Pond View comprehensive permit.

economic developmentfacilitieshousingplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departmentstown meetingwarrant article

Present: Adam (member); Marjorie (staff (planning office)); Matt (member); Amanda (member); Greg Roy (presenter (applicant's representative, 88 Mass Ave)); Chris Anderson (presenter (engineer for the warehouse applicant)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 20:20Close the public hearing on the citizen petition for 199 Mass Ave.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  2. ▶ 21:03Recommend in favor of the citizen petition rezoning 199 Mass Ave.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  3. ▶ 1:12:10Close the public hearing for 88 Mass Ave.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  4. ▶ 1:13:54Approve the waivers requested in project narrative section 4.4 for 88 Mass Ave.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  5. ▶ 1:19:28Approve the 88 Mass Ave site plan with standard conditions, a 30-foot sight triangle with a three-foot maximum height, and set construction hours.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  6. ▶ 1:37:18Approve the three waivers as discussed for the warehouse site plan.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  7. ▶ 1:40:26Continue the warehouse public hearing to November 14 at 6:05 PM.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  8. ▶ 1:44:43Close the public hearing on the motel use table article.passed (ayes heard, no count)
  9. ▶ 1:45:23Recommend approval of article 20 (motel use changed to special permit).passed (ayes heard, no count)
  10. ▶ 1:54:26Recommend refusal of the right of first refusal on parcel 3 Sunny Hill Road.passed (ayes heard, no count)

And 3 procedural: approve minutes of the september 26, 2022 meeting and the 245 holman street hearing. (▶ 2:22:49); approve minutes of the september 12, 2022 meeting and the hearings for lancaster ave and leominster road. (▶ 2:23:31); adjourn. (▶ 2:47:58).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsVote: close public hearing, 199 Mass Ave▶ 20:20

    recording Close the public hearing on the citizen petition for 199 Mass Ave. — passed (ayes heard, no count)

    town’s minutes —

    Our minutes record a vote to close the hearing and the official minutes record none; check the official minutes and the video near this time.

  2. differsVote: close public hearing, 88 Mass Ave▶ 1:12:10

    recording Close the public hearing for 88 Mass Ave. — passed (ayes heard, no count)

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no vote to close this hearing; check the recording and the official text.

  3. differsVote: 88 Mass Ave site plan approval and its conditions▶ 1:19:28

    recording Approve the 88 Mass Ave site plan with standard conditions, a 30-foot sight triangle with a three-foot maximum height, and set construction hours. — passed (ayes heard, no count)

    town’s minutes “m. brenner made motion to approve the site plan approval for 88 massachusetts avenue with standard conditions to include construction hours”

    Both approve the plan, but the special conditions differ (our sight triangle versus the official snow storage condition) and the quoted official motion records no outcome; check the recording and the full official text for the exact conditions and the vote.

  4. differsVote: three waivers, warehouse site plan▶ 1:37:18

    recording Approve the three waivers as discussed for the warehouse site plan. — passed (ayes heard, no count)

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no warehouse waiver vote; check whether it was omitted or handled elsewhere.

  5. differsVote: continue warehouse hearing to November 14▶ 1:40:26

    recording Continue the warehouse public hearing to November 14 at 6:05 PM. — passed (ayes heard, no count)

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no continuance vote for the warehouse hearing; check the official text and the recording.

  6. differsVote: close public hearing on motel use table article▶ 1:44:43

    recording Close the public hearing on the motel use table article. — passed (ayes heard, no count)

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no vote to close this hearing.

In one record only: 5 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Sunny Hill Road purchase price and acreage: Sunny Hill Road right of first refusal purchase: 95 000, ninety six thousand dollars, 1.34 Acres ▶ 1:50:58
  • Recording only — 30 School Street demolition appropriation: 30 School Street demolition appropriation: 250 or less 250.01 ▶ 2:06:59
  • Recording only — Municipal building concepts cost: Municipal building concepts cost: 20 million dollars ▶ 2:17:10
  • Recording only — Decisions on records storage, Brooks house memo, Pond View zoning discussion: Records storage was to be removed from the ongoing items list; the Brooks house memo will be emailed to the whole board. ▶ 2:35:02
  • Recording only — Staff and presenters present: Marjorie (staff (planning office)); Greg Roy (presenter); Chris Anderson (presenter) ▶ 0:00
  • Town’s minutes only — Decision: 245 Holman Street decision endorsed: “decision endorsed by the board.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Decision: Section 250-6.4 Driveways & Entrances tabled: “section 250-6.4., driveways & entrances- tabled”
  • Town’s minutes only — Pond View Commons stubs commitment: “he would cover the cost of stubs for every property that was along the three mile extension”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent member: “absent: erik torgersen”

Compared 2026-10-14. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:50:58Sunny Hill Road right of first refusal purchase

    The 1.34 acres under the qualified offer carries a stated price the town could match. The board saw no reason to spend town money on landlocked wetlands.

    as heard:95 000ninety six thousand dollars1.34 Acres

  2. ▶ 2:06:5930 School Street demolition appropriation

    A member noted town meeting had voted money for demolition of the old primary school.

    as heard:250 or less 250.01

  3. ▶ 2:17:10Municipal building concepts cost

    One concept references a renovation cost for the existing hall.

    as heard:20 million dollars

  4. ▶ 2:32:10Board member training reimbursement

    The town will reimburse board members for training if they submit a paid invoice.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:21:01Mr Jeffries will be invited to the November 14 meeting and the municipal building concepts will be the first agenda item.
  • ▶ 2:11:13Board members will read the municipal building concepts and discuss them at the next meeting.
  • ▶ 2:35:02Records storage was to be removed from the ongoing items list; the Brooks house memo will be emailed to the whole board.
  • ▶ 2:38:07Zoning near the Pond View comprehensive permit was to go under the comprehensive permit category, with a possible discussion on November 28.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

Not yet read for a documents list.

Heard in the recording

Not yet looked for in the recording.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening call for public comment; none offered.
  2. ▶ 2:09Explained the property has been used commercially for decades and only about a third of it is zoned commercial; asked for the board's backing of the rezoning. — mark chapterline, as heard, co-owner of 199 Mass Ave
  3. ▶ 19:18Spoke in favor of the 199 Mass Ave rezoning as common sense. — Dave Rogers Street, as heard
  4. ▶ 1:04:12Questioned why the 88 Mass Ave site plan and waivers were needed when no tenant is known; accepted the explanation afterward. — Dave Rogers 82 Highland Street, as heard
  5. ▶ 1:37:59A resident asked where the warehouse property is located.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, pledge and public commentno public comment · 1:03 long
  2. ▶ 1:03Citizen petition to rezone part of 199 Mass Ave to commercialrecommended in favor · 20:37 long · warrant article, planning and zoning, town meeting
  3. ▶ 21:4088 Mass Ave site plan hearing, waivers and conditionsapproved with conditions · 59:20 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  4. ▶ 1:21:00Warehouse site plan hearing (Fitchburg line), waiverswaivers approved; hearing continued to November 14 · 20:06 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  5. ▶ 1:41:06Use table change: motel to special permitrecommended approval · 4:39 long · warrant article, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:45:45Right of first refusal, parcel 3 Sunny Hill Roadrecommended refusal · 9:02 long · planning and zoning, housing
  7. ▶ 1:54:47Comprehensive permit updateinformational · 4:53 long · housing, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:59:40Municipal building design conceptsdeferred to November 14 · 22:26 long · facilities, town departments
  9. ▶ 2:22:06Minutes approvalvoted · 2:27 long
  10. ▶ 2:24:33Committee reportsinformational · 9:00 long · town departments, capital
  11. ▶ 2:33:33Meeting schedule and ongoing itemsinformational · 2:10 long
  12. ▶ 2:35:43Board comment on sewer and zoning for the comprehensive permitno resolution · 12:15 long · planning and zoning, water sewer, housing
  13. ▶ 2:47:58Adjournmentvoted · 0:32 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts were not stated; only ayes were heard on each vote.
  • Several speakers were not identified, and some names are mangled in the captions.
  • The Sunny Hill price was rendered inconsistently, as 95,000 and then ninety six thousand.

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