What was said

Planning Board, October 30, 2023

the recording · 2:45 long, about 20,056 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:31:04The Planning Board voted to recommend all five zoning articles for town meeting, with the amendments discussed at the hearing, and closed the public hearing.
  2. ▶ 1:11:02The board agreed to propose two clarifying amendments to the water supply article: a statement that nothing in it regulates Zone One, and a definition of Zone One.
  3. ▶ 9:18Residents objected that the water supply article's map is illegible and shows Zone One, which the article does not mention; a board member will try to get a legible map to residents.
  4. ▶ 2:03:45The board will propose a solar canopy amendment letting it grant extra height by special permit for emergency and service vehicles.
  5. ▶ 2:35:22The storm water permit decision for 274 Prospect Street was not voted and moves to the November 13 meeting after corrections.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The water supply protection article, which residents said was voted down last year, goes to town meeting with added wording on Zone One, so residents near the Hickory Hills well will be asked to vote on the amended text.
  • The solar canopy, driveway and agricultural bylaw changes are zoning rules that residents will be asked to vote on at town meeting, and the board's recommendation is on the record for all five.

Watch next

  • November 13 Planning Board meeting, when the 274 Prospect Street storm water permit decision is due after corrections.
  • Town meeting, where counsel's recommended amendment to the water supply article would be moved at the outset and the article withdrawn if it fails.

economic developmentplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentpublic safetytown departmentstown meetingwarrant article

Present: Matthew Allison (chair); Matthew Brener (vice chair / member (presiding for much of the hearing)); Miss Reed / Amanda (member); Mr Torguson (member (not present)); Richard Harris (interim planning consultant (via Zoom)); Madam clerk (clerk (read the hearing notice)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 2:30:00Close the public hearing on the zoning warrant articles. — moved by unidentified, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 2:31:04Recommend all five articles as presented, with the amendments discussed at the hearing. — moved by unidentified, as heardpassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting. (▶ 2:44:20).

The money

  1. ▶ 1:32:09Full-size printed map for town meeting

    A resident asked for a large printed map at the entrance. The board member said the budget should allow it but he would verify first.

  2. ▶ 59:13Water district funding

    A board member said the water district does not cost taxpayers and is pay-as-you-use.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:11:02The board agreed to propose two clarifying amendments to the water supply article: a statement that nothing in the section regulates Zone One, and a definition of Zone One, using Mr Harris's wording.
  • ▶ 1:23:23A board member will try to get a legible map to residents, digitally and at town meeting, and will raise the printing and communication problem with the town manager.
  • ▶ 2:03:45The board will propose Mr Harris's suggested amendment on solar canopy height: the planning board may grant a greater height by special permit for emergency and service vehicles. It will go in the town meeting slide deck.
  • ▶ 2:35:22The storm water permit decision for 274 Prospect Street was not voted tonight; it will go to the November 13 meeting after corrections. The chair must review the October 23 hearing before voting.
  • ▶ 2:42:28The chair proposed that, before the master plan arrives, the board shore up existing bylaws (signs, solar). Members voiced agreement.
  • ▶ 1:14:12Counsel's recommended amendment would be moved at the outset of town meeting. If it fails, the article should be withdrawn.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

Not yet looked for in the recording.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:12Initial public comment invited; none given, since attendees were there for the warrant article hearing.
  2. ▶ 9:18The map referenced in the water supply article is illegible in the booklet, and it shows Zone One although the article is silent on it. She asked for a new map without Zone One and a statement that the planning board is not regulating Zone One. — Joan Peas, as heard, resident, 11 Winter Green Court
  3. ▶ 13:33Asked why only Zones 2 and 3 were addressed, why Zone One was not, and who owns the map. Said the Hickory Hills well sits on private property. — John Fortune, as heard, resident, 50 Hemlock Drive, president of Hickory Hills Landowners Inc
  4. ▶ 15:18Supported Joan Peas's concerns about the Zone One map and asked for clarification. — Iris sinkle, as heard, resident, 13 Winter Green Court
  5. ▶ 24:05Urged the board to state in the article that it has zero jurisdiction over Zone One, remove Zone One from the map, and make the article fully transparent. — Joan Peas, as heard, resident
  6. ▶ 34:36Zoom chat question from Jack and Denny Brown (15 Winter Green Court) asking what the amendment would change in the water supply protection district.
  7. ▶ 40:20Gave the history of the Hickory Hills landowners association and well. The well has been shut down for years because of manganese and iron. — John Fortune, as heard, resident, 50 Hemlock Drive, president of Hickory Hills Landowners Inc
  8. ▶ 45:32Said the article is not clear or transparent, was voted down last year, and should not go to town meeting in its present condition. Wants the map and wording fixed. — Joan Peas, as heard, resident
  9. ▶ 48:04Said the water district project showed no care for residents around Hickory Hills Lake and asked where citizens can go to be heard. — Iris cinkle, as heard, resident, 13 Wintergreen
  10. ▶ 55:25Questioned the motive, citing the water department's earlier interest in selling water to other towns. — Deborah Richie, as heard, resident, 98 Royal Fern Drive
  11. ▶ 1:08:16Zoom chat from Jack and Denny Brown asking that the public see a list of specific changes.
  12. ▶ 1:25:10Concerned that the 2021 map may already be visible on state GIS and affecting residents before the town votes on it. — John Fortune, as heard, resident, 50 Hemlock Drive
  13. ▶ 1:39:56Zoom chat question from Jack and Denny Brown asking whether swimming will be allowed.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:12Call to order and public commentno public comment · 2:01 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 2:13Straw poll, order of business, and opening the public hearinghearing opened; water article taken first · 4:40 long · warrant article, planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 6:53Water supply protection district article: public comment on Zone One, the map, and who owns itdiscussed; board and Mr Harris answered · 27:43 long · warrant article, planning and zoning, public comment
  4. ▶ 34:36Chat questions, history of the Hickory Hills well, and concerns over transparency; Zone One wording fixamendments agreed · 40:24 long · warrant article, planning and zoning, public comment
  5. ▶ 1:15:00Map availability, the 2009 and 2021 maps, summary of changes, swimming questioninformational; follow-ups assigned · 27:21 long · planning and zoning, warrant article
  6. ▶ 1:42:21Closing of water article discussion and the agricultural article's absence from the warrant tablelater found to be in the booklet under mislabeled numbering · 5:10 long · warrant article, town meeting
  7. ▶ 1:47:31Solar articles: large-scale exclusion for canopies, canopy handicap parking and heightagreed to propose a height amendment · 23:12 long · warrant article, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 2:10:43Agricultural bylaw changes to align with state farming exemptioninformational · 9:17 long · warrant article, planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:20:00Driveways and entrances common driveway bylawdiscussed; no objection · 10:00 long · warrant article, planning and zoning, public safety
  10. ▶ 2:30:00Closing the hearing and voting to recommend the articlesvoted · 1:40 long · warrant article, planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:31:40274 Prospect Street storm water decisionpostponed to November 13 · 7:00 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:38:40Remaining agenda items, master plan meeting, board priorities, adjournmentadjourned · 6:13 long · planning and zoning, economic development

What the captions could not carry

  • Mover and seconder names for the motions are not given in the captions.
  • The vote counts are not stated; only 'I' responses are captioned.
  • Some Zoom chat speakers, such as Jack and Denny Brown, were never heard directly.
  • The article numbering for the agricultural article is garbled in the captions.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

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