What was said

Zoning Board of Appeals, October 26, 2022

the recording · 1:11 long, about 8,391 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 20:36The Zoning Board of Appeals granted a special permit to raze and rebuild a home at 398 Sunset Lane, by roll call.
  2. ▶ 48:29The board offered the Pond View Commons 40B traffic peer review contract to Vanessa Associates, after the applicant said he had a conflict with the other firm.
  3. ▶ 56:32The board voted not to engage any peer reviewer until enough fees are deposited to cover the cost.
  4. ▶ 49:13Engineering peer review was put off because no civil engineering quotes were received; sewer, water and environmental review were deferred as well.
  5. ▶ 1:09:47The 40B comprehensive permit hearing was continued to November 9th at 7.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Peer reviewers are the town's independent check on a large 40B housing proposal's traffic, stormwater, sewer and water effects, and the funding vote means that review starts only once fees are deposited.
  • Review of sewer, water and stormwater was not decided at this meeting, so the town's technical scrutiny of Pond View Commons is still incomplete.

Watch next

  • November 9th at 7: the continued Pond View Commons hearing, covering civil engineering quotes, fees and the start of the sewer and water discussion.
  • The applicant's request to waive or reduce peer review fees, which the board said it will take up at the next hearing.

contracts and unionsfeeshousinglegalplanning and zoningpublic commentwater sewer

Present: Alfred gravel (chair); Lisa Norman (board secretary); James bezakowski (member); Winthrop Patrick Callahan (member); Don Gurney (member); Greg Roy (presenter); Casey Burlingame (building commissioner (letter read)); Adam (town counsel (as evident)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 20:36Grant the special permit for 398 Sunset Lane as requested.passed; roll call of ayes heard, the chair announced the permit granted
  2. ▶ 48:29Offer the traffic peer review contract to Vanessa Associates.passed; ayes heard on roll call, full count not audible
  3. ▶ 56:32Do not engage any peer reviewer until sufficient fees are deposited to cover the cost.passed; ayes heard, chair said the motion passed
  4. ▶ 1:09:47Continue the 40B comprehensive permit hearing to November 9th at 7.passed; ayes heard

And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting. (▶ 1:11:01).

The money

  1. ▶ 41:10Traffic peer review quotes, Vanessa Associates and MDM

    Counsel compared the two lump-sum quotes. Vanessa's includes two public meetings, while MDM's excludes meetings and charges per meeting.

    as heard:8 500seventy eight hundred dollars7 800twelve hundred dollars per meetingabout a 700 differential

  2. ▶ 51:40Sewer peer review by Wright-Pierce, recommended by the Sewer Commission

    A member said the Sewer Commission has an estimate for sewer-only review.

    as heard:twenty thousand dollars

  3. ▶ 54:04Applicant's cost estimates for water and sewer compared with the town's

    A member said the gap between the applicant's costs and the town's could be large and raised red flags.

    as heard:10 million dollars

  4. ▶ 55:30Applicant's request for a waiver or reduction of peer review fees

    The board will take up the fee waiver at the next hearing. Counsel said reviewers should not be engaged until the money is deposited in the account, and the applicant would fund the reviews while reserving the right to argue about fees.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 49:13Engineering peer review was put off to the next hearing because no civil engineering quotes were received. Staff will keep seeking quotes.
  • ▶ 1:09:06Next hearing is November 9th. It will cover civil engineering quotes, fees, and the start of the sewer and water discussion.
  • ▶ 53:23Counsel advised giving the applicant notice that sewer, water and environmental peer review will be discussed later. Stormwater review is expected to fall within the civil engineering review.
  • ▶ 1:08:45A board member asked Mr. Strassmeyer to put his environmental concerns in writing to the board, and he agreed.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

Not yet looked for in the recording.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 43:01The 40B applicant said he has a conflict with one of the two traffic peer review firms, MDM, and had no problem with the cost of the other. — a speaker, applicant
  2. ▶ 58:43For the Sewer Commission, recommended Wright-Pierce as sewer peer reviewer and offered to supply a detailed price structure and capacity information. — Dave McDonald, as heard, member of the Sewer Commission
  3. ▶ 1:00:50Spoke by Zoom in favor of an environmental peer reviewer on stormwater and water quality, citing his water sampling of the brook above Hickory Hills Lake. — Carl strassmeyer, as heard, resident, 39 Valley Road

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:13Opening notices, introductions, hearing procedure and required findingsinformational · 2:47 long
  2. ▶ 3:22398 Sunset Lane application and building commissioner's letter readinformational · 5:50 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 9:12Applicant presentation and board questions on the Sunset Lane rebuildinformational · 11:24 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 20:36Vote and post-decision instructions for the Sunset Lane special permitvoted; granted · 2:29 long · planning and zoning, legal
  5. ▶ 23:58Wait for the 40B hearing to begin and counsel's update on peer reviewsinformational · 9:46 long · housing, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 33:44Choosing a traffic peer reviewer for Pond View Commons, including the applicant's conflict claimvoted; Vanessa Associates · 15:29 long · housing, contracts and unions, legal
  7. ▶ 49:13Engineering peer review, sewer and water review, fees, and vote not to engage reviewers before fundingvoted · 8:00 long · housing, fees, water sewer
  8. ▶ 57:13Applicant asks what the funding vote meant; counsel clarifiesinformational · 1:30 long · housing, fees
  9. ▶ 58:43Public comment from a Sewer Commission member and a resident on environmental and stormwater reviewinformational · 7:17 long · public comment, water sewer
  10. ▶ 1:06:00Stormwater review discussion, continuance to November 9th, and adjournmentvoted; continued · 5:25 long · housing, planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Exact roll-call counts on each vote were not captured.
  • The adjournment vote result was not audible.
  • The nature of the applicant's conflict with MDM was never stated.
  • Captions mangle names, including Vanessa Associates, Kroll or Cole, and Strassmeyer.

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026