What was said
Zoning Board of Appeals, November 9, 2022
the recording · 1:37 long, about 13,918 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/zoning-board-of-appeals/2022.json
The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 51:37The Zoning Board of Appeals voted to cut the administrative fee for the Pond View Commons comprehensive permit well below the figure in its own rules.
- ▶ 1:13:06The board voted to ask the applicant to fund the technical peer review deposit, net of an amount already received; the count was not audible.
- ▶ 1:14:32The board voted to let the chair, with counsel and the applicant, agree terms with a civil peer reviewer after comparing two quotes that differ widely.
- ▶ 1:28:18Water and sewer representatives are to be invited, and the applicant is to submit utility plans and speak with the districts.
- ▶ 1:32:31The hearing was continued to December 14 at seven o'clock; traffic peer review and updated water and sewer plans are on that agenda.
Why it matters — our reading
- Peer review fees are paid by the applicant rather than the town, so the fee and deposit votes set how much outside review of a 200-unit project's engineering the town gets, and how much of it the applicant funds.
- Sewer and water capacity and cost estimates were disputed and the plans are not yet in, so the questions residents may weigh in on remain open until the continued hearing.
Watch next
- Continued hearing on December 14 at seven o'clock: traffic peer review, updated water and sewer plans, and sewer and water representatives.
- Which civil peer reviewer the chair selects and the terms agreed.
feeshousinglegalplanning and zoningtown departmentswater sewer
Present: Alfred grabella (chair); Hans Winthrop (member); Patrick Callahan (member); Tony nacastro (member); David black (member, remote); Adam Costa (town counsel); Lisa Normandy (board secretary); Don Bornstein (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 51:37Reduce the administrative fee to ten thousand dollars from the forty-one thousand dollars in the board's rulespassed (chair announced the fee is 10,000; individual count not audible)
- ▶ 1:13:06Ask the applicant to put thirty six thousand five hundred dollars into the technical peer review fund (amended from 37,000 to account for 8,500 already received)passed (roll call partly audible; count not audible)
- ▶ 1:14:32Give the chair authority, in consultation with counsel and the applicant, to reach an agreement with a peer reviewer on behalf of the ZBApassed (ayes heard; full count not audible)
And 2 procedural: continue the public hearing to december 14th (▶ 1:36:45); adjourn (▶ 1:37:08).
The money
- ▶ 2:50Administrative/process fee for comprehensive permit
Applicant's attorney proposed a fee tied to the planning board's schedule, versus the board's rules calling for a much higher fee; applicant requested a waiver.
as heard:forty five hundred dollars750 dollar base fee25 dollars per dwellingforty one thousand dollars4500
- ▶ 5:36Board's view on administrative fee
Chair and members favored a fee in a middle range rather than the applicant's number or the full rules figure.
as heard:ten thousandfifteen thousand dollar rangetwelve thousand
- ▶ 12:34Technical/peer review deposit
Rules require an upfront technical deposit; members noted additional fees would be needed beyond this.
as heard:25 000forty five thousand dollar technical correct deposit45 000
- ▶ 13:14Peer review quotes
Quotes for civil peer review differ widely between two firms; traffic peer review already paid.
as heard:eighty five hundred dollarsforty one thousandtwenty thousandtwenty thousand eight hundred dollars8 500
- ▶ 18:36Applicant's package offer
Applicant offered an administrative fee plus funding half of the civil peer review; town counsel cautioned against treating them as a package.
as heard:ten thousand dollars20 800Twenty Thousand eighty
- ▶ 33:40Sewer extension cost estimates
Board member cited a new estimate for the sewer line, which the applicant disputed.
as heard:four million dollars8.7 million
- ▶ 1:09:51Technical deposit total
Board discussed bringing the technical deposit up to the full amount, net of payments already received.
as heard:37.545 00036.5thirty six thousand five hundred dollars
- ▶ 1:19:03Sewer peer review quote
A quote for sewer peer review was received through the Sewer Commission, with the caveat that scope is hard to estimate without plans.
as heard:twenty thousand dollars20K
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 52:42Administrative fee set at ten thousand dollars, separate from the technical peer review question.
- ▶ 1:14:32Chair to compare the two civil peer review quotes with the firms and choose a reviewer in consultation with counsel and the applicant.
- ▶ 1:32:31Next hearing set for December 14th at seven o'clock, to cover traffic peer review, updated water and sewer plans, and sewer and water representatives.
- ▶ 1:28:18Board to invite Water and Sewer representatives to the next meeting and ask for recommended peer reviewers; applicant to submit utility plans and talk to the districts.
Documents and exhibits
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Public comment
- ▶ 1:33:55Chair invited public comment; no one appears to have spoken.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning95 min · 97%
- fees72 min · 74%
- housing70 min · 72%
- legal22 min · 22%
- water sewer19 min · 20%
- public comment3 min · 3%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:03Opening notice and procedureinformational · 2:27 long
- ▶ 2:30Administrative fee and peer review fee debateadministrative fee voted to ten thousand · 50:12 long · fees, planning and zoning, housing
- ▶ 52:42Technical peer review deposit and delay concernsvoted to request a deposit; chair given authority to select civil reviewer · 21:50 long · fees, planning and zoning, legal
- ▶ 1:14:32Water and sewer plans and peer review sequencingapplicant to submit plans; districts invited to next meeting · 19:23 long · water sewer, planning and zoning, housing
- ▶ 1:33:55Public comment, environmental review, continuance and adjournmenthearing continued to Dec 14; adjourned · 3:13 long · planning and zoning, public comment
What the captions could not carry
- Individual vote counts for all motions were not clearly audible.
- Adjournment vote result not audible.
- Several figures (quote totals, the applicant's project cost) were rendered inconsistently.
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